Monday, February 8, 2010

Jewish question. Is there a good afterlife for Xtians, if Xrist was a false messiah?

Shalom! A question for Jews.





Let's say that my Saviour was just a Dionysian/Mithraism construct, but that I lived a godly life (to the best of my knowledge). When I die(d), would I be resurrected and or go to ';heaven';, as per Jewish theology? Or would I stay in Sheol?Jewish question. Is there a good afterlife for Xtians, if Xrist was a false messiah?
Righteous Gentiles have a place in the World to Come, and are deemed ';righteous'; by the 7 laws given to Noah after the destruction of the world by flood. The ';no false gods'; clause, as you point out, could be a deal breaker. We don't really judge that, whether or not someone is written in the Book of Life is up to God to judge whether their idea is false or not. Even then, moderately so-so righteous may have the chance to go to Gehinom (Yiddish Gehenna), which is a temporary place of rectification of that soul. It takes a certain amount of righteousness to get to ';hell'; or Gehinom. One must merit it prior to going to Paradise. If one doesn't there are several options. (The very righteous don't spend much time if any at all there, but no one spends eternity there). Sheol is an earlier term than Gehinom appearing in Genesis and refers to a common grave or holding place for both Jews and Gentiles, all humanity until the resurrection of the dead when Mashiach comes.





According to oral tradition there are a number of other ways to rectify a soul, e.g. gilgul or coming back to earth to finish learning whatever was left undone, or by being lost - a lost soul wandering the earth like a ghost for a while. This is a more severe punishment than ';hell'; or Gehinom, but it is needed for recalcitrant types.





Both Jew and Gentile will experience the resurrection when Mashiach comes. The Hebrew word Olam Ha-Ba (';the world to come';) is used for both the messianic age and the afterlife, Gan (Garden) of Eden. The world to come is the final destination for humanity to look forward to. A Mishnah passage says, ';This world is like a lobby before the Olam Ha-Ba. Prepare yourself in the lobby so that you may enter the banquet hall.'; The tractate Moed Katan teaches, ';This world is only like a hotel. The world to come is like a home.'; RaMChaL says it's like a entry hall, and Olam Haba is the room you want to go to.





Everything in the world and in the celestial realms is for our rectification and spiritual advancement to get to Olam Haba. The goal is to get everyone up to speed eventually. The totally evil, however, will be destroyed at the end of time as will all evil. It will have served its purpose in guiding the righteous to the truth and away from evil.





Easiest to Read Source for how Olam Haba works (A Jewish Theory of Everything): Derech Hashem by Moses Chaim Luzzatto outlines this and the footnotes will give Talmudic references in Oral Torah for these ideas.Jewish question. Is there a good afterlife for Xtians, if Xrist was a false messiah?
Judaism says 'all righteous souls shall have a share in the world to come'. It doesn't matter which faith a person follows. If you live your life in a moral, meaningful way, you will reach 'gan eden' or 'garden of eden'.





'Sheol' refers to a type of purgatory where a soul resides for up to one year, for 'purification'. From what I understand, most people will spend a bit of time there, and only the truly and totally righteous will go straight to 'gan eden'.





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We believe that all people who seek to do good have a place in the World to Come. Even though we believe Christians to be misguided, if they're trying to be good people, that's all Judaism has ever asked of anybody.
There is a place in the world to come for all good people, regardless of their religion.
At the time of death, everyone is separated to one side of the gulf, or the other. Do not go to the wrong side.
Either way, the most prosperous up there are Jewish. (e.g. Abraham and Messiah)
He is not false....yes we will live eternally!!

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