Monday, February 8, 2010

If the Jews killed Jesus then doesn't that make him a false messiah?

In Deuteronomy 13 it gives the guidelines of what makes one a prophet. It then goes on to state how a false prophet should be handled by the Jewish community.





In Acts 10:39, it blames the death of Jesus on the Jews





';And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hung on a tree'; (Acts 10:39)





If the Jews killed Jesus then that makes him a false prophet basically because he failed the guidelines of being a prophet based on Deuteronomy 13. The Jews would have not had a reason to kill Jesus if this was the case. Which means the pharisees were correct about Jesus.





So is Jesus a false prophet if the Jewish people killed him?





(those who claim Jesus was not a prophet please read)





';...Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:..'; (Lk 24:19).





Jesus was looked at as a prophet.If the Jews killed Jesus then doesn't that make him a false messiah?
the whole story about Jesus being crucified and resurrecting 3 days later is just talking about the sun and the spring equinox in astrology. That is why easter is celebrated on a different day every year because it has to do with the spring equinox and sun worship.If the Jews killed Jesus then doesn't that make him a false messiah?
Deuteronomy 13 simply declares that a ';prophet'; that tries to teach people to worship other Gods than Jehovah/I AM is a false prophet on the face of the matter, whatever else he says that might come true.





Jesus Christ's message was that Jehovah's kingdom had come, and that people should worship Him rightly. He did not lead the people after other gods; the directive in Deuteronomy 13 does not apply. Jesus was not a false prophet by its standards.





You'll need another argument.





Blessings.
The problem with those verses is that Jesus was not killed by the Jews he was handed over from them to the Romans. The Romans crucified Jesus Christ. It is not a Jewish custom to crucify their condemned.
It was a small, divided sect of Jews who acted against Yahshua. Not Judaism as a whole. In fact, almost all of His early followers were Jews.
He was a false messiah and a false prophet yes.
I always thought the Romans killed him. But either way he was false.
I do not consider Jesus a false Prophet, but yes, that group has killed a lot of people.
you can't kill a person who never existed
Deuteronomy 13:5 says that a false prophet is one that has spoken to turn you away from the Lord your God and he shall be put to death.


Jesus did not say anything to turn the people away from God.


But there were many reasons the Jews thought Jesus was a false prophet:





Jesus said he could forgive sins which was considered blasphemy. The jews believed that only God could forgive sins. By saying he could forgive sins he was declaring himself equal to god. This would go against the first commmandment ';I am the Lord your God you shall have no other Gods before me.';





Jesus administered to the sick. The sick were considered unclean sinners who were being punished by god.





Jesus preached and healed on the sabbath day. Jewish law declares that you shall not work on the sabbath.





Jesus' disciples and followers claimed he was the Messiah. The jews at that time expected their Messiah to be a powerful king with an army that would free them from Roman opression. Jesus was a simple man that spoke of peace and love.





Jesus spoke freely of his ideas in the temple. When he was confronted by the pharissees he called them out. He once called them whited sepulchers, all clean on the outside, but on the inside full of dead mans bones and corruption. He called them hypocrites and vipers. He overturned the moneychangers tables at the temple, he was considered a troublemaker.





He called God his father, which was calling himself the son of God. He spoke of his kingdom in heaven which implied he was a king, ultimately sealing his fate.





He was crucfied on the cross by the Romans. A sign was put on his cross stating the crime he committed. The sign said ';King of the Jews';
When you dream something up you just stomp the accelerator in the floor and go! Never mind whether it is right direction or not.





Rather than Jesus being wrong, it was the last straw for the Jews with God. The Jews were always a stiff-necked people. Compared to cows, they had ears but did not want to hear. ----Zech. 7:11; Hosea 4:16; Is. 65:1-3.





Killing the true Messiah was the last straw. No longer were they God's Chosen People. Acts 2 shows the annointing of a new Chosen People. Later called Christians out of all nations, tribes and tongues.





Jesus proved to be the true Messiah by fulfilling all the hundreds of prophecies about the Messiah. Even those he could not possibly control like his parents and birthplace and time of birth.

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