Thursday, February 4, 2010

Do Pagans owe Christians a debt of deep eternal gratitude for replacing their false Gods with the true Messiah?

and the only one who can bring them Salvation -- a concept they had never heard of?Do Pagans owe Christians a debt of deep eternal gratitude for replacing their false Gods with the true Messiah?
Sorry, you know little or nothing about comparative religion or the history of Christianity, ';lone soldier against culture and against God';. Not only is ';salvation'; a major theme in most all pagan sun-god religions, philosophies, or mythologies, but many of the circumstances, principles, and rituals are as well. Such as, the dying and rising god, man-god, god come to walk on earth for a short period, self-sacrificing god, ';salvation'; by smearing of blood, shared meals of drinking the blood and eating the flesh of your god in ';rememberance'; (or symbolically, wine and bread), son born by the union of a virgin, human mother and a god or a spirit, halos, demons, devil, hell, miracle healings, wandering star, magi or magicians and star-gazers, etc. Early Christian leaders admitted that there was no difference between the christianity and other pagan religions, except for a few of the ideas borrowed from the Jews and their use of the Jewish bible in order to give it some history and traditions (so that it wouldn't appear to be such a ';modern'; (at that time), syncretistic, made-up religion.





There is very little of the Hebrew bible concept of messiah in either Jesus or in Christianity, so there can be no ';true messiah'; in it.Do Pagans owe Christians a debt of deep eternal gratitude for replacing their false Gods with the true Messiah?
Eternal graitude?! More like an eternal grudge. Because of Christians, much of the deep-rooted history, culture and beliefs have been lost forever. The ancient gods were no less valid than yours, but they came in, threatened, bullied and pushed until the Pagans were finally forced into acceptance. Hardly something to be grateful for.
The short answer is no.





The question itself is vacuous, however, since it is based on the assumption that there is a need for salvation. The Fall is a concept based on a very partial reading of the tribal myths of one particular, rather small, nation - which were then adopted, when politically expedient by the Roman Empire, and then spread by the sword throughout much of the world





If no fall, then no need for a messiah - be he Jesus, Stalin, Hitler or Charlie Manson. The desire for messiahs has led to nightmare, Take responsibility for your own life and your own deeds and stop looking for some divine being to rescue you. She won't.
pagans should actually be quite upset that their doctrines are being used by the catholics, plagurism at it's finest, then they do it in the name of God, Blaspheme at it's finest...God Bless
Do Christians owe Muslims a debt of deep eternal gratitude for replacing their false Gods with the true Allah?
No, I believe Christianity as a cult used fear and threats to convert. Screw salvation if don't convert you'll burn in hell.
Yeah, but the pagans repaid them by letting the Christians continue the fun pagan holidays so it's all good.
no, you owe us one for destroying our ancient cultures. They murdered and forced to believe what you wanted them to.
thats funny.








they should be grateful the way christians enslaved and slaughtered them too.
No that was God's doing and the actions of the missionaries after bringing the word has never been pretty.
No.
Yep. Drop the old Pantheon and get your dead Zombie god on a stick here!
dont think so no
Christians didn't replace any false God with the Messiah. God sent his son to die for all if they believe in him. God is where the gratitude goes, not to people. Second would be Jesus Christ himself for being willing to do it.

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